Matt Bomes | Startup Tackles Nationwide Health Crisis 

Most people have met someone with a food allergy, say to peanuts or dairy. But, says Matt Bomes, the problem is more widespread than you know.

1 in 12 kids have food allergies… and 26 million adults in the U.S. do, too.

Matt’s startup, The Bantam Group, is ready to tackle this epidemic head on by spreading awareness, bringing together a community of those with allergies, and providing solutions and resources for families.

Matt talks about ways to make life easier for allergy sufferers, as well as…

  • How you can do business and help people at the same time
  • Uncommon food allergies that can be deadly
  • The next generation EpiPen in development right now
  • The worst place to get info on food allergies
  • And more


David Elmasian: Welcome to the Hub of Success. I’m your host Dave Elmasian. Today I’m excited to talk to Matt Bomes, co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Summit Street Medical, a company that empowers food allergy families to live life to their fullest. This is a personal problem for Matt as he, like many others, has a life threatening allergy to tree nuts. Matt was quoted recently as saying, “A patient-oriented approach to addressing the global food allergy epidemic is long overdue. Summit Street Medical is changing that.” Well Matt, welcome to the podcast.

Matt Bomes: Thank you for having me, I’m excited to be here.

David Elmasian: Good. Per the advice, and this name is going to come up a lot on the podcast, but the advice of a very well respected broadcaster, Candy O’Terry. In the past we had a segment called “Check Your Tech.” I don’t know you’ve heard some of the previous episodes, and we always did it at the end. And Candy said, “You know Dave, you got to do it at the beginning.” And when Candy says I got to do something, I got to do something. So why don’t we get started, it’s a little quick fire segment.

Matt Bomes: All righty.

David Elmasian: Short, simple questions, everybody passes, there’s no … You don’t have to be nervous about it. And being a tech guy myself, I got to bring a little technology into it a little bit. So let’s get started with it. So, are you a Mac or PC guy?

Matt Bomes: PC.

David Elmasian: PC? Okay. iPhone or Android?

Matt Bomes: iPhone.

David Elmasian: Oh, you’re a switch hitter there.

Matt Bomes: Yeah.

David Elmasian: How about Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or LinkedIn? It could be all of the above, none.

Matt Bomes: Yeah, I think it’s all of the above. It has to be these days.

David Elmasian: All of the above. All right, but which one do you check first?

Matt Bomes: Pretty active on Instagram. That’s where a lot of my target demographic is.

David Elmasian: Okay. How about Netflix or Hulu?

Matt Bomes: Netflix.

David Elmasian: I’m still pulling for Hulu. Nobody wants Hulu. This might be … Maybe. Roku, Apple TV, or Chromecast?

Matt Bomes: Neither.

David Elmasian: None, none of the above?

Matt Bomes: None of them.

David Elmasian: I don’t want to ask how you’re getting that stuff though. Don’t worry about it. Gmail or Outlook?

Matt Bomes: Gmail.

David Elmasian: All right, what’s better, a bantam or a hawk?

Matt Bomes: Definitely a bantam.

David Elmasian: Really?

Matt Bomes: Yeah.

David Elmasian: All right, we’ll circle back to that later. See you passed.

Matt Bomes: All right.

David Elmasian: Passed with flying colors. All right, so now that we’ve gotten that out of your way, tell me about the story about you had a tryout in Wellesley High School for the lacrosse team.

Matt Bomes: Yes.

David Elmasian: And it was kind of an interesting revelation wasn’t it?

Matt Bomes: Yeah, absolutely.

David Elmasian: Tell us a little bit about that.

Matt Bomes: It was 2012. I was a junior in high school at Wellesley and training for my high school lacrosse tryout. You had to pass a two mile test that was-

David Elmasian: I’m glad I didn’t tryout.

Matt Bomes: Yeah, obviously as quickly as you could do it. I went and practiced and prepared for it obviously over at the Wellesley track and was prepping all week for it. And really ran into issues with life threatening anaphylaxis, so I had three reactions in one week where I almost passed away and had a full blown allergic reaction right there on the track. It was just extremely difficult for me to figure it out, but I found a lot of personal drive to figure out what was going on and have figured out how to do so.

David Elmasian: So that was a big moment in your life so to speak, but just to step back a bit, and for somebody like myself that I don’t have an allergy to that, but we hear about it so much. What are some of the warning signs or symptoms that if I see somebody, just so I can be aware.

Matt Bomes: That’s a big topic right now is that it differs from person to person, and there’s a ton of symptoms that are easily identifiable. But again, my trajectory has been early onset of hives right after I eat a specific allergen, and head to toe overheating with hives, and itchiness, and eventually closing of your airways is really where obviously it gets really serious. So it’s difficult at times to, especially with my exercise induced anaphylaxis, to differentiate between the two. So, that was my real biggest issue with the training was that I was fully sprinting on this track. It was difficult to differentiate between, am I just out of shape, or is this a life threatening reaction?

David Elmasian: So in layman’s terms, how do you define, or how do you explain to somebody what exercise induced anaphylaxis is?

Matt Bomes: Well it’s a subset of anaphylaxis. So anaphylaxis is a life threatening reaction to food, or insect stings, or latex, or other triggers. And really what it is, is the immune system attacking a foreign invader. For me, it’s peanuts, and tree nuts, and sesame seeds, as well as chickpeas. So food allergies are super common. There’s food dependent exercise induced anaphylaxis, which is what I have. It’s a combination of a certain food and exercise at the same time and the way that you do it.

David Elmasian: Okay, so that’s the formula so to speak?

Matt Bomes: Right.

David Elmasian: Right.

Matt Bomes: It’s sort of a perfect storm.

David Elmasian: Right, right. Okay, you found out about this when? Was it at that movement that you realized it was exercise that was triggering?

Matt Bomes: I had, had reactions in the past to foods growing up in elementary school, so I knew what anaphylaxis was and the feeling was in my body. But when it was exercise induced, it was really confusing because I didn’t eat peanuts on the run, but I had the same reaction. So I couldn’t figure it out. My allergist didn’t know what it was. He told me to quit playing lacrosse. So I hopped on Google and figured out on my own just doing research.

David Elmasian: Talking to a lot of people, usually they have a champion in their life. Did you have somebody like that, that was helping you along the way and leading the charge of saying, “Hey, this doesn’t make sense to everything?”

Matt Bomes: Not really honestly with the allergies itself, which is interesting with just timing in my business and what we’re doing. My generation is pioneering the food allergy epidemic. When I was growing up, there wasn’t much knowledge at all about food allergies, and I was one of very few kids that I knew. And now it’s up to one in 12 kids in a classroom has food allergies. So it’s just so common these days, but that’s the mission of the company that I’m working on, is to provide those role models and easy access to ambassadors and other advocates.

David Elmasian: We’ll jump into your company in just a moment Matt. I guess my question is, is you obviously have excelled in sports. How have you overcome that? What do you do? What are some of the things that you’ve learned now that can prevent that same situation of happening of having that?

Matt Bomes: I guess in answer to your previous question as well, I do have a ton of role models and people in my life, not specifically to food allergy, but an answer to this question is, applying that entrepreneurial mindset and the sports mentality, which is taken from the sport. And then I apply it to my condition and it’s a model for anybody with a life threatening condition, whether it’s diabetes or anything else like that. It’s the whole message of overcoming your challenge.

David Elmasian: You haven’t done this alone. I read on your website that in, was it the fall of 2014, at Trinity College, you met a guy named Brian Grasso right?

Matt Bomes: Yes, that’s right.

David Elmasian: So tell us about that. How did this all come about?

Matt Bomes: Yeah, so we actually met in the weight room. He was a baseball player at Trinity College, and I was a lacrosse player. I had just transferred into Trinity, didn’t know many people, so we were assigned to the same lifting group given our same numbers and everything. So we linked up, had some fun under the squat rack. The rest was history. We just got-

David Elmasian: My college experience is a lot different than that. Go ahead, I’m sorry.

Matt Bomes: Yeah, but no he’s incredible. I think what really stuck with both of us was just our complimentary interests, and passions, and mutual interest in entrepreneurship, but polar opposite skill sets, which really complimented each other.

David Elmasian: Okay, this idea of starting a business started with the two of you at that meeting. Did it happen right at that time or shortly thereafter?

Matt Bomes: Not at that meeting, no, it was … We would go out to lunch after lifting and just come up with ideas. The amount of kids that come up with an app or some idea for an app or other business, and I had always wanted to pursue this, given my personal affliction. Brian does not have allergies, but was always interested in affecting large scale of people interested in entrepreneurship. So over time, he was able to become more committed to the concept after we showed it after he saw more people in our community and at school.

David Elmasian: So his eyes got really opened up and like many of us, we hear about these things, but when you see it first hand in somebody, especially when they see somebody like yourself, which is … Again, you guys are listening to us, but you’re healthy, obviously energetic, athletic guy, so you don’t fit the quote, unquote, whatever that is, classic mold of somebody would think would have a food allergy.

Matt Bomes: Yeah right.

David Elmasian: Yeah.

Matt Bomes: So we had a lot of friends at school that he would share an idea about the company, they would be like, “Wow, that’s incredible. That would change my life.” He came more onto it.

David Elmasian: Actively involved?

Matt Bomes: Yeah.

David Elmasian: So you started with this idea. Paint the picture for us. So how did it start? How did it morph? Did you come up with some crazy stuff along the way? You said, “Oh, that sounded great,” and that kind of thing?

Matt Bomes: That never stops. Yeah, so it really started actually back in high school when I was having those reactions. That was, I call it, the flash of insight. That was when I was running. I ran outside three times and had three reactions where I couldn’t carry my EpiPen with me because it was just so big and cumbersome and didn’t fit into that active lifestyle. I remember looking at x-rays of the EpiPen on Google and seeing that there’s so much white space in the device itself, and realizing that why can’t this be a smaller, more compact device that could be wearable.

David Elmasian: That’s the way of the world, right? Everything gets smaller, more effective, cheaper. Was that the official start of the business at that point?

Matt Bomes: No, so we actually incorporated the company 2016.

David Elmasian: Okay. So tell us about that. Now you’re legit so to speak. You have this company. What’s your mission with the company? I know we talked a little bit about it, but really, what’s your official mission statement?

Matt Bomes: The mission is to empower food allergy families to live life with more confidence. There’s a ton of anxiety in this space. It’s a really hot topic. There’s a lot of celebrity and high profile involvement and a lot of high profile thought leaders talking about it today. The market demographics are just such that it’s really a true epidemic. There’s a lack of resources, there’s only 4500 board certified allergists in the US.

David Elmasian: Wow.

Matt Bomes: And an article just came out last week that there’s 26 million adults who have food allergies.

David Elmasian: Wow, those guys are busy though.

Matt Bomes: There’s just a disconnect there.

David Elmasian: Sure. So, what are you trying to accomplish? Really, what’s the end goal so to speak? And I know things change over time, but really, what’s your goal for this?

Matt Bomes: The goal is really to pioneer the next generation and provide a world for the kids that are growing up in a similar place and lifestyle that I did, to live with what I wish I had growing up.

David Elmasian: Right, part of that is probably awareness too right?

Matt Bomes: Absolutely.

David Elmasian: So same thing that happened to you that somebody could say, “Hey, okay well I know what this is.”

Matt Bomes: Right.

David Elmasian: Or parent, or guardian, or whomever, so that there’s that higher level of awareness so it doesn’t come as much of a shock.

Matt Bomes: Yeah, it’s really about community generation and that type of stuff.

David Elmasian: Again, I was stalking on the internet, in a good way. There’s a story about somebody that inspired you guys. His name was Oakley Debbs.

Matt Bomes: Yes.

David Elmasian: Could you tell us about that a little bit, about his story?

Matt Bomes: Sure, yeah. That’s another example. Oakley Debbs was a high energy, active lifestyle, he was 11 years old, grew up in West Palm Beach, Florida and passed away 2016, I believe, to a severe food allergy on Thanksgiving with his family up in Maine. Really sad story that really hit the community at large, and his family started a non-profit in memory of him. He always wore red sneakers, as his active lifestyle and in sports and stuff. He was a big soccer player, so they started Red Sneakers for Oakley, which is an awareness campaign posting on social media. It’s had an enormous impact on people. If you go to their website, it’s flooded with testimonials from around the country and around the world about how his education helped save somebody’s life or a mother knew what to do in the situation, given all the awareness from social media.

David Elmasian: Right, it’s too bad. It’s such a shame that something like that has to occur. I know it’s not just him, it happens a lot unfortunately.

Matt Bomes: Right.

David Elmasian: There’s a lot of people with food allergies. One thing I’m curious about, because there’s been some buzz about it in mall circles. I read the Boston Globe. There was an article, I say recently, could have been maybe six months or a year ago, where a lot of people in the food industry were pushing back because people would walk into a restaurant and they’d say, “Oh, I have a food allergy.” And they’d go through these procedures because of it, and only to find out that it really wasn’t legit. And it kind of caused a lot of … I think it caused a lot of discourse and a lot of us and them. How do you feel about something like that?

Matt Bomes: Again, the digital community today is incredibly fragmented. It’s incredibly diluted, and the information is abundant, but it’s completely disconnected and there’s so many different resources that are not 100% complete. So it’s hard to trust certain things. People get a lot of their information from Facebook, which is not really a trusted resource.

David Elmasian: I laugh because it’s not funny, but it’s sad, but it is funny.

Matt Bomes: Again, with the allergist, my allergist didn’t know what to tell me. So there’s just a serious opportunity in education and standardizing different protocols, different places in the country. And it’s just so different each place.

David Elmasian: Sure. One of the things that I remember when I read that story that was in the Boston Globe, the part that I found most disturbing was … And I get the reason why people do the things that they do to a degree, but what I think really what bothered me about it was the people that really have legitimate food allergies that were, like you said, life threatening, well it’s almost like the old thing about when somebody yells fire in a building and there’s not a fire. After a while, people become immune to it so to speak, so they don’t really treat it with the same degree of care. I think that’s really the real big risk when you’re talking about restaurants, or eating establishments, or places where some of these allergies that can have very far reaching effects, even death in some cases.

Matt Bomes: Right.

David Elmasian: I just say to myself, “Well man, if I’m a food preparer and I didn’t take that seriously because everyone out there is saying all of a sudden, I’m allergic to gluten or whatever, and I don’t really take that full care and somebody either gets seriously ill or worse, dies, because of it.” How do you live with something like that? That’s the part that I think that really bugged me the most about it.

Matt Bomes: Right, no I think and too, obviously just simply marketing for them. It’s a no brainer to be allergy aware these days, and with the prevalence increasing as much as it is, it’s honestly adventurous for restaurants to be more allergy friendly. You’re seeing different retail companies online selling allergy friendly products and it’s having a huge impact. Even expanding on from food allergies, our whole approach to it at Summit Street is getting back to the roots and simplifying the essentials of better living. I don’t think people should be getting upset that they can’t eat dairy. It’s not a big problem. Our whole thing is pioneering a new health conscious lifestyle and active living with healthier solutions anyway, so a lot of these things that people are allergic to are things that should be avoided in healthy diets anyway. So it’s really just advantageous to-

David Elmasian: But corporate America doesn’t always like that sometimes?

Matt Bomes: No.

David Elmasian: Talk more specifically about what you’re doing with the business and your company.

Matt Bomes: We started out originally it was very device focused. We were developing an alternative to the EpiPen. It’s an improved form factor with some other clinically differentiated technologies and spent over the last two years, doing R and D, and have repositioned the strategy moving forward with, “Okay, how are we going to sell this product?” Taking a step back now that we have a complete design and figuring out, “Okay, where’s the true opportunity in this market?” What we’re finding is a lot of it is around distribution and access to these devices. Just again to put it into perspective, there’s dozens, of millions of people who suffer from these allergies. In 2017, there was only 3.6 million prescriptions written for an EpiPen, which at the time, was the market leader, though it’s severely underserved. It’s extremely expensive for these devices.

David Elmasian: That’s what I was going to ask you, why?

Matt Bomes: So our whole plan is to find creative ways to decrease the cost and increase availability and units sold.

David Elmasian: What is the cost to buy an EpiPen?

Matt Bomes: It depends. It’s typically over $600 for some people without different insurance plans.

David Elmasian: Wow.

Matt Bomes: Because you need it everywhere, I always had six or eight devices each year. I would buy a bunch of them and have them in different locations, so the cost can really add up.

David Elmasian: I’d imagine, yeah.

Matt Bomes: And again, it’s just really high cost and low supply. The reason why these devices are so expensive is because the typical health value chain is extremely outdated.

David Elmasian: I would say. That’s an understatement, yeah.

Matt Bomes: The reason for why all these drug prices are so high. So our plan is to flip the script on the healthcare industry and provide a subscription service with novel and rich content that provides emotional support to these families; and pulling different solutions together that are different digital resources for these people, as well as providing active lifestyle oriented solutions, though our plan is to build a digital community first, prior to the release of our device. Really bring together community and provide patient-centric solution to these people so that we can build ongoing fulfilling relationships with them.

David Elmasian: Because I see it, there’s definitely a generational difference or perception of how food allergies and related allergies are seen. And this is not the same thing, but actually one of my business partners, he’s chosen to be a vegan. And he’s done it for a lot of different reasons, and for a short while, he lived with his in-laws, which is never a good idea. And I remember him telling me a story when they really didn’t get the whole vegan thing. He told me about one time they sat down to dinner and they had made chicken parmesan. And there’s like four pounds of cheese or whatever on top of this, and it’s chicken. He’s like, “Well we can’t eat this.” He’s not one of these in your face … He’s like, “Well we can’t eat this.” And they’re like, “Well why not? It’s just chicken.” And they’re like, “Did you hear what we said?”

Matt Bomes: Yeah, yeah.

David Elmasian: So again, that’s an extreme example, and it’s certainly not the same thing, but I see that myself too. Even I remember myself growing up, I remember there were kids that would have, like you said, tree nut allergies, but it didn’t seem to be … Either because it was more restricted and it didn’t exist in as much numbers, or it was just one of those things that we don’t have this spread of information that we have now.

Matt Bomes: Right, no I think it’s definitely both, yeah.

David Elmasian: That’s what I was going to ask you. So have the numbers gone up?

Matt Bomes: Yeah, the numbers have gone up, but it’s really interesting again. Stepping back and identifying the opportunity here in this space. People don’t know the answers to why it’s gone up, but there’s a lot of different factors. You can imagine it’s so complicated with these 26 million adults who have this allergy. My personal story is extremely unique. It’s extremely complex, and a perfect storm is extremely complex. I’m allergic to a number of different things, and the way that they interact is extremely different for so many different people. It’s not just a peanut allergy. Every allergy is completely different. That’s what’s really challenging, but again, it’s going up definitely.

David Elmasian: I would imagine, it’s got to create a lot of anxiety both for the people that have the allergy, and people that around them. Because, like you said, it’s that fear of that unknown. You don’t know … Not only you’re talking about food allergies, if maybe there’s something in something that you wouldn’t know about, or maybe there’s an allergy that you’re just not aware of.

Matt Bomes: I think 25 or 30% of reactions occur in people that didn’t know they had an allergy. I had a recent reaction probably in November sent me to the ER in Boston. I ate chickpeas as a part of my dinner, which I had never been allergic to, but it was a chickpea based meal, so there was a lot of it. In combination with I exercised recently after it. The temperature outside was different-

David Elmasian: You got to get off that exercise thing. I’m just joking.

Matt Bomes: For me, especially, I’m allergic to X, Y, and Z, but all of a sudden you can become allergic to something else, and anybody at any age can become allergic to something.

David Elmasian: Well I think that’s one of the beautiful things about the world we live in. We’re talking about social media, we were joking about Facebook and all that, but really what it does though, it allows people that have similar interests, or concerns. It’s nice to know … Not that you wish that somebody else is experiencing what you’re experiencing, but it’s nice to know that you’re’ not the only one, and having those anxieties and those fears can be isolating I imagine. So being able to share it with others and hear other stories, if nothing else, makes you realize, “Well, yeah this is a struggle, this is a challenge, but I’m not the only one facing it.”

Matt Bomes: Right, it’s really about providing peace of mind, and again, that’s our approach with flipping the script from being so product focused and selling it to a consumer instead of really starting with the consumer first and understanding that me as a consumer, I have immediate constituents all around me, my parents and my support group. Growing up it was teachers, and it was coaches, and parents of friends who aren’t allergic, but have to deal with play date, or birthday party, whatever it is. So there’s parental conflict, there’s conflict between different parents on how to treat allergies in schools. Easy to make kids feel isolated.

David Elmasian: Well not only that, I think it’s also can be isolating too right?

Matt Bomes: Right, right.

David Elmasian: My kids now, my oldest son is 26 and I remember when they were in elementary school, that was really … And it sounds crazy because it really wasn’t that long ago, they used to have separate tables for kids that-

Matt Bomes: Yeah, and they still do. Yeah, there’s a lot of food allergy bullying from other kids in schools, but there’s a lot of passive aggressive bullying that really is not … I don’t call it bullying, it’s more of just lack of awareness, especially around superior figures of authority. So, for example, if a kid nine years old on a soccer team, the coach or something says, “Oh, we couldn’t have these snacks after soccer because of this kid’s allergies.” He’s not purposely, maybe not purposely,

David Elmasian: Hopefully not, yeah but,

Matt Bomes: Isolating him, but automatically making him feel isolated just because of that lack of awareness.

David Elmasian: Yeah, yeah, so like I said, I think in some ways it’s really good that this awareness has increased, and what you guys are doing to add to that, that’s really fantastic. So, couple quick things and we’ll wrap things up.

Matt Bomes: Sure.

David Elmasian: Everybody faces challenges, especially when you’re talking about business. And again, this is called The Hub of Success, so we have a little bit of business in here. If there was one piece of advice that you could give yourself when you first started that you know now and you’ve figured out, what would it be? Anything that comes to mind in particular that you say, “Wow, I wish I had known that earlier?”

Matt Bomes: Just speak up and ask questions. You can never ask enough questions. And I think asking the right questions is a true skill. You only have so much time with a lot of people, so time is exceptionally valuable. You need to just always be prepared for things. Ask the right questions to get certain answers that are really valuable that you need. So, that’s something that we’re always working on. Our team is just becoming better at effective communication.

David Elmasian: It’s such a cliché about the whole communication thing, but it’s not a cliché because it really is the case.

Matt Bomes: Well it’s amazing too how much our business has just evolved over time, and I don’t think any idea that starts off is straight trains towards success. It’s always evolving, you’re always getting punched in the mouth and waking up and just getting knocked in the mouth.

David Elmasian: I thought that only happened to us. It happened to you too? Come on.

Matt Bomes: Always be asking questions and surrounding yourself with people that can help you out.

David Elmasian: Right. Where do you see Summit Street Medical in a year, five years, 10 years down the road?

Matt Bomes: Moving forward, we’re again, really pioneering this community generation in a way that hasn’t been done before. I think there’s a ton of opportunity in the space, and what’s really exceptional about it is that everybody that’s in this space, whether it’s a start-up company, a non-profit, or medical device company, food and beverage company, they’re all started by parents or people who suffered from this disease and needed their own personal solution. So there’s a ton of fragmented resources out there, and our plan is, again, to just curate those within our brand, style guide and provide a comprehensive 360 degree solution to these families. We’re really excited just to learn from our customer base and solve problems together.

David Elmasian: Yeah, well all those individual stories, like you said, have a lot of value to them, but if people aren’t able to access them. We live in the information age, but even though, as I’ve said, we’ve kind of gone the other way. There’s so much information being able to find it, and then the other part that you touched upon, which is have incredible resources is huge. Like is said, we keep joking about Facebook and fake news and all that kind of stuff, but there’s an element of truth to that in that, like I said, if somebody knows something and you’re not aware of it, or others aren’t aware of it, especially for something like this. We’re not talking about marketing some new widget, this is life and death.

Matt Bomes: Right.

David Elmasian: So being able, like I said, to aggregate and curate that information is just huge. And being able to allow organizations to use that in a way that can benefit others, and maybe make a buck or two along the way, nothing wrong with that, is fantastic.

Matt Bomes: Yeah, no we’re really excited about it, and there’s abundance of opportunity here.

David Elmasian: Yeah, well you know Matt, that’s quite a story. I know you and I could talk for hours upon hours, but we’re going to wrap things up. Tell people how they can connect with you or reach out to.

Matt Bomes: Summit Street Medical is our research and development oriented business, and then we have a consumer facing brand that’s called The Bantam Company.

David Elmasian: Oh, The Bantam Company.

Matt Bomes: Yes, so that’s going to be-

David Elmasian: Hold on right there now. So for those of you that aren’t familiar with Trinity College in Connecticut, and you mentioned you’re on the lacrosse team. What was the name of that lacrosse team?

Matt Bomes: We were the Bantams.

David Elmasian: The Bantams.

Matt Bomes: The mascot, yes.

David Elmasian: Okay.

Matt Bomes: So that’s … Yeah.

David Elmasian: So it’s not surprising that the other company’s called The Bantam. All right.

Matt Bomes: So Summit Street Medical is actually the home address of Trinity College, so that’s staying true to our roots. We have a lot of connections with Trinity, but yeah, through The Bantam Company, that’s our consumer facing platform. @BantamCompany on all social media. The Bantam Company on Facebook and You can join the journey with us.

David Elmasian: Great. Well, thanks for joining us here on The Hub of Success and sharing your story.

Matt Bomes: All right, well thank you for having me.